new york giants and new orleans saints or minnesota vikings and atlanta falcons? . >> the cowboys. >> yeah! no, she's right. she's right. it is pittsburgh steelers and dallas cowboys, isn't it? >> the name of the team she's heard of. >> pittsburgh's won the most, six, and dallas has won the next most, well, they won five. just go to the next one. >> another lady from pennsylvania. how much are super bowl commercials being sold for this year? $500,000, $1.5 million, $3 million, $4 million? >> we'll go for the big bucks. $4 million. >> you are smart as pretty. yes, you are. >> $4 million, is that for a 30-second ad? >> most people are talking at a party and don't get to hear the commercial anyway. >> they are showing them all before the game. >> is that smart? >> i don't know, i like to be surprised. >> len he we love you. we love you. thanks for coming on. kathie is going to come back across the street. life is still a cabaret. 40 years later, we're going to talk to the famous, liza minnelli, legendary cast of music musical right after this. have given way to sleep